Wednesday, July 09, 2008

This says something

photo © Michael Jastremski for openphoto.net CC:Attribution-ShareAlike

I openly admit that I didn't do things in the right order. I'm not proud that I got pregnant--twice--out of wedlock.
I too had a child prior to getting married, isn't grace wonderful!
One of the hurdles both my husband and I had to overcome, was that we were both fornicators before we got saved and married.
I had a child prior out of marriage prior to being saved too.
I also had 2 children out of wedlock and was married 7 years ago the end of this month. I also had one of those children when I was 16.
my Hubby and I "lived in sin" before we got married.


I could find more, I'm looking for more.

It just seems like there is a progression here. People who follow/once followed the Pearls/Patriocentricity/extreme complimentarianisim all start out with unwanted children they have "trouble controlling". And they all have trouble controlling their own sexuality. If they didn't, they wouldn't have gotten pregnant before they were ready.

You know, I hate to say it's a question of maturity, of knowledge, but it sure looks that way to me. I expect my role models and my deities to be, well, better at things than I am, and I as a Pagan (back then) and Liberal (still) and frankly member of a very sex positive set (yep, still), I still managed to keep my legs together. Apparently all these good, church-going women simply could not say no, but I could sit in the middle of a sex club and have no problem turning it down. And some of, no all, of the most amazing parents I have ever seen are gay and lesbian, who clearly planned for and wanted every child. Planning your family
matters, this is quite clear to me. It simply makes you a better, more patient parent.

Another break in the glass, if it was this important to this deity, he would find a way over time to get his followers to live by what they preached. When you look at the
actions, not the words or the books, being Conservative and Christian means having as many babies as possible, regardless of marital state, and being irresponsible about sexuality. Which is just not something I can hold with. All this "God forgives all sins and gives grace without works" is just an excuse to be irresponsible, really. If God wasn't going to forgive you, how would you behave?

I'll add more quotes as I find them.